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#1 Americans say to cut basically nothing

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:55 pm
by frigidmagi
Yahoo
If you were in charge of government spending, what programs would you cut to reduce the deficit and maybe take a bite out of the debt? A new poll from the nonpartisan Pew Research Center suggests that the answer is: Nothing…well, maybe aid to the world’s poor.

The survey was released one week before automatic across-the-board spending cuts known as sequestration are due to start coming into force.

Sure, Pew found just a few weeks ago that 72 percent of Americans say President Barack Obama and Congress should make cutting the deficit a “top priority.” And Pew also found that a majority backs Obama’s call for a blend of cuts and tax increases to stem the tide of red ink.

So Pew asked Americans whether they wanted to cut, maintain or increase spending in 19 areas—from veterans’ benefits to infrastructure to Medicare to crime-fighting. The most vulnerable category turned out to be “aid to the world’s needy,” which 48 percent of respondents said they wanted to decrease, while 49 percent said they wanted to leave it at current levels (28 percent). Those who would like to see aid increased came in at 21 percent.

Thirty-four percent would reduce the State Department’s budget. But they’d have to do it over the objections of 46 percent who said they would leave Secretary of State John Kerry’s ledger as is, and 14 percent who would like to see more cash flow to American diplomacy.

Unemployment aid? Thirty-two percent said cut, 41 percent said maintain, and 24 percent said increase. For military spending, 24 percent cut (down from 30 percent two years ago, Pew notes), 41 percent maintain and 32 percent increase. The safest category was veterans' benefits, with just 6 percent saying they would cut them, compared with 38 percent who said they would keep current levels and 53 percent who said they would increase them.
Partisan disagreements? You bet, found Pew. None of the 19 areas listed got a plurality of Democrats voting to cut. But Republicans weren’t all that eager either: Just foreign aid (70 percent) and unemployment assistance (56 percent) got majority GOP support for cuts.
Hrmmm. If we're not willing to cut anything... Then we're gonna have to raise taxes.

#2 Re: Americans say to cut basically nothing

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:58 am
by Dark Silver
But...but...we can't raise taxes!

Any tax increase will put the American Middle Class(tm) out of work! Forcing Job Creators to spend more of their hard earned and risky cash instead of using it to provide good steady well paying jobs to Americans!

How dare you suggest such a thing Mr Magi! It's almost like you suggested we raise taxes on Israel! How positively unAmerican(tm) of you!

#3 Re: Americans say to cut basically nothing

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:59 pm
by Hotfoot
But Frigid, is not a man allowed the fruits of his labors?! Taxes only take from the successful and give to the underachievers of society! Why, I read a story today about an economics professor who showed his students the folly of socialism like this by averaging out their grades! That clearly factual anecdote completely destroys the argument of skilled, learned individuals who have spent the better parts of their lives studying and practicing economics and the like.

#4 Re: Americans say to cut basically nothing

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:12 pm
by SirNitram
I propose an income cap. That is, a tax bracket which is 100%. Let's set it at 10Million personal. All forms of money coming in. We'll remove it when the war is over.

#5 Re: Americans say to cut basically nothing

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:30 pm
by Hotfoot
SirNitram wrote:I propose an income cap. That is, a tax bracket which is 100%. Let's set it at 10Million personal. All forms of money coming in. We'll remove it when the war is over.
Yeah, no, that's the other bracket of crazy that doesn't will never work.

#6 Re: Americans say to cut basically nothing

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:46 pm
by SirNitram
Hotfoot wrote:
SirNitram wrote:I propose an income cap. That is, a tax bracket which is 100%. Let's set it at 10Million personal. All forms of money coming in. We'll remove it when the war is over.
Yeah, no, that's the other bracket of crazy that doesn't will never work.
True. FDR tried to do it(Much lower cap; 350k of today's dollars), only acheived 97% after starting with that as a negotiating point.

#7 Re: Americans say to cut basically nothing

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:21 am
by General Havoc
SirNitram wrote:
Hotfoot wrote:
SirNitram wrote:I propose an income cap. That is, a tax bracket which is 100%. Let's set it at 10Million personal. All forms of money coming in. We'll remove it when the war is over.
Yeah, no, that's the other bracket of crazy that doesn't will never work.
True. FDR tried to do it(Much lower cap; 350k of today's dollars), only acheived 97% after starting with that as a negotiating point.
FDR was fighting World War Two, nearly a century ago. The world is not the same as it was in 1939. And it did not cease to be the same simply because of an imaginary cabal of evil plutocrats.

#8 Re: Americans say to cut basically nothing

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:18 am
by SirNitram
General Havoc wrote:
SirNitram wrote:
True. FDR tried to do it(Much lower cap; 350k of today's dollars), only acheived 97% after starting with that as a negotiating point.
FDR was fighting World War Two, nearly a century ago. The world is not the same as it was in 1939. And it did not cease to be the same simply because of an imaginary cabal of evil plutocrats.
Oh, I know. But we're supposedly fighting a WAR over the GLOBE. And the DEFICIT is the MOST IMPORTANT THING according to very real idiot plutocrats. So they can chip in.

Part of my attitude in this is the BS that is groups like 'Fix The Debt' finally getting to me.