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#1 Syrian opposition elects interim prime minister

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:47 am
by frigidmagi
Yahoo
Syria's opposition coalition early Tuesday elected a little-known American-educated IT manager and Islamic activist to head an interim government to administer areas seized by rebel forces from President Bashar Assad's troops.

Ghassan Hitto received 35 votes out of 48 ballots cast by the opposition Syrian National Coalition's 63 active members during a meeting in Istanbul. The results were read aloud by coalition member Hisham Marwa to applause from a few dozen of his colleagues who had waited until after 1 a.m. to hear the results.

"I miss my wife and children and I look forward to seeing them soon," said Hitto, who has lived in the United States for decades and recently moved from Texas to Turkey to help coordinate aid to rebel-held areas.

When asked what his interim government's first priority would be, Hitto said he planned to give a speech later Tuesday outlining his plans.

Coalition members hope the new government will unite the rebels fighting Assad's forces on the ground and provide services to Syrians living in rebel-held areas, many of which have been battered by the country's civil war and suffer acute shortages of food, electricity and medical services.

But the new government faces huge challenges, starting with its ability to gain recognition from rebel factions on the ground.

As rebels have progressed in northern and eastern Syria, a patchwork of rebel groups and local councils have sought to fill the void left by the government's withdrawal by organizing security patrols, reopening bakeries and running courts and prisons. It is unclear if these groups, many of which have taken charge of their own towns, will accept an outside authority, especially if it is headed by someone who has spent decades abroad.

"How can a civilian come and tell these fighters on the ground, 'Drop your weapons. It's my turn to rule'?" asked Adib Shishakly, the coalition's representative to a group of Gulf nations known as the Gulf Cooperation Council, before the results were announced.

Hitto's election follows two failed attempts to form interim governments due to opposition infighting. Coalition members also say they received insufficient international support to allow them to project their authority to groups inside Syria. The new government could have the same problem.

"You have to find a way to cooperate with these groups and you can only rule by providing services, which requires funding," Shishakly said.

The council's creation of an interim government renders even more remote the chances of ending the war through negotiations with Assad's government — the preferred solution of the U.S. and other world powers.

The U.S. has been cool to the idea of a rebel government to rival Assad's and supports a peace plan put forward by the U.N. and the Arab League that calls for the formation of a transitional government that represents both the regime and the opposition.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Tuesday reiterated his call for a political solution "while there is still time to prevent Syria's complete destruction."

On Monday, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry also said the Obama administration wants to leave the door open for a political solution. Regarding the rebels, he also said the U.S. would not "stand in the way of other countries that made a decision to provide arms, whether it's France or Britain or others."

French President Francois Hollande said last week that his country and Britain were pushing the European Union to lift its arms embargo on Syria so they can arm the rebels. Germany and other EU nations oppose the move, saying it will exacerbate the violence.

Coalition members in Istanbul rejected the idea of negotiating with the Syrian government before Assad leaves power.

"We've heard a lot about this 'peaceful solution,' but there are no positive, real steps from the regime," said Nizar Al Hrakey, a coalition member.

On Monday, the head of Syria's largest official rebel group, the Free Syrian Army, threw his weight behind the idea of an interim government.

"We consider it the only legal government in the country," Gen. Salim Idris told reporters in Istanbul.
However, Idris's authority within the country remains limited, with some of the most successful rebel groups on the ground rejecting his authority.

The Syrian government did not immediately comment on the Istanbul meeting. It blames the war on a foreign conspiracy to weaken Syria being carried out by terrorists on the ground.

Hitto did not receive a resounding mandate from the coalition, of which he is not a member. Of the group's 63 active members, only 48 voted. Four cast blank ballots and Hitto received 35 of the remaining votes.

Hitto was born in Damascus, the Syrian capital, in 1963, according to his official resume provided by the coalition. Little known in Syria, he has lived in the United States for more than two decades, most recently in Texas. He has academic degrees from Purdue University in Indiana and Indiana Wesleyan University.

He worked for a number of different technology companies and helped run a Muslim private school called the Brighter Horizons Academy. He is also a founding member of the Muslim Legal Fund of America, which was founded to give legal aid to Muslims following the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

He is married with four children.

Activist Ghassan Yassin, who watched the vote after traveling from the embattled city of Aleppo, said he saw "no reasons to be optimistic about the formation of an interim government."

Yassin said he had only heard of Hitto recently and doubted his government would have the resources to make a difference.

"The question is not whether there is an interim government, but whether there will be any support for it," Yassin said.

Syria's conflict began with political protests in March 2011, and has since spiraled into a civil war, with hundreds of rebel groups fighting Assad's forces across the country. The U.N. says more than 70,000 people have been killed and millions pushed from their homes by the violence.

Also on Monday, Assad's fighter jets struck targets near the town of Arsal, Lebanon, according to Lebanon's state-run National News Agency. The two countries share a porous border.

State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland confirmed that Syrian warplanes and helicopters had fired rockets into northern Lebanon, striking near Arsal.

"This constitutes a significant escalation in the violations of Lebanese sovereignty that the Syrian regime has been guilty of," Nuland said. "These kinds of violations of sovereignty are absolutely unacceptable.'
You elected who? An IT Manager

... So a guy who actually hasn't been in Syria... Decades? Really?

Has no powerbase in Syria, no allies, no way of enforcing his mandate... Actually I'm not sure he has a mandate as odds are the average Syrian wouldn't have picked him for anything really... Is suppose to bring law and order?

Oh hell this is Somalia all over again.

#2 Re: Syrian opposition elects interim prime minister

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:40 pm
by General Havoc
So tell me then, among the rebel leaders, which one does have a powerbase in Syria, allies, and the means of enforcing his mandate? Who should they have elected if not this guy?

#3 Re: Syrian opposition elects interim prime minister

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:05 pm
by frigidmagi
So are you saying this is a good idea?

#4 Re: Syrian opposition elects interim prime minister

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:14 pm
by General Havoc
What about it? The fact that they elected a Prime Minister? Yes I think that's a good idea. A better one than simply not doing so at least.

The fact that they elected this guy as Prime Minister? I have no idea, as I don't know what the rationale was for electing him nor who the other candidates were. I would need to know these things before making such declarations.

#5 Re: Syrian opposition elects interim prime minister

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:24 pm
by frigidmagi
I don't think anyone is gonna say electing a Prime Minister (or a President, or a National Manager... Or Something!) is in and of itself a bad idea. I'm not even panning them for not having an open election to the general populace (For a variety of reasons, one of which would be the sheer impossibility of running an election in the middle of an utter mess of a civil war!). My view here is that this man is not gonna be able to command any loyalty from within Syrian. He seems to have chosen solely to appeal to the West (LOOK! LOOK! OUR LEADER IS TEXAN! YOU HELP US FOR THE LOVE OF ALLAH NOW YES?).

Basically, what makes anyone believe that he can convince the rebel fighters to stop carving up the country and let him run things? Half of these guys are shooting at each other when they can't find government troops to shoot at.

This isn't me being dour for dourism's sake. You are aware I believe how I feel about defeatism, but when you're looking at a horse, you should say it's a fucking horse.

#6 Re: Syrian opposition elects interim prime minister

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:40 pm
by General Havoc
frigidmagi wrote:I don't think anyone is gonna say electing a Prime Minister (or a President, or a National Manager... Or Something!) is in and of itself a bad idea. I'm not even panning them for not having an open election to the general populace (For a variety of reasons, one of which would be the sheer impossibility of running an election in the middle of an utter mess of a civil war!). My view here is that this man is not gonna be able to command any loyalty from within Syrian. He seems to have chosen solely to appeal to the West (LOOK! LOOK! OUR LEADER IS TEXAN! YOU HELP US FOR THE LOVE OF ALLAH NOW YES?).

Basically, what makes anyone believe that he can convince the rebel fighters to stop carving up the country and let him run things? Half of these guys are shooting at each other when they can't find government troops to shoot at.

This isn't me being dour for dourism's sake. You are aware I believe how I feel about defeatism, but when you're looking at a horse, you should say it's a fucking horse.
The issue isn't weather a horse is a horse. The issue is whether it's a horse because they held an election for prime minister. Syria may turn into a Somalia-like failed state, but it certainly isn't going to turn into Somalia because of this. Especially not given the paucity of information we all have concerning it.

Neither you nor I nor anybody else has any idea why this guy was elected. Maybe he has contacts in the various rebel groups. Maybe he has experience managing transitional councils. Maybe he makes a mean barbeque, I don't know. Without any idea as to who else was up for election and what the mindset was behind it, I can't possibly know. I didn't even know they were considering electing someone and I don't know what their plan for this guy's position is. And until I do know these things, I can't possibly make predictions based around what will or won't come of it. Forget moving the goalposts, we haven't even decided what sport is being played yet.

#7 Re: Syrian opposition elects interim prime minister

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:46 pm
by frigidmagi
Fair enough but given that he hasn't even been to Syria in decades and is an IT manager from Texas, I hope you'll forgive me for being pretty sure that he has few if any contacts with the rebel brigades out there on the ground.

#8 Re: Syrian opposition elects interim prime minister

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:48 pm
by General Havoc
frigidmagi wrote:Fair enough but given that he hasn't even been to Syria in decades and is an IT manager from Texas, I hope you'll forgive me for being pretty sure that he has few if any contacts with the rebel brigades out there on the ground.
You may well be right. I have no insights on the matter. But surely there was some reason he was elected. Perhaps the contacts he had in the west were considered more important, given the role that was anticipated for him?