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#1 Obama, Cantor spar over Occupy Wall Street

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:20 pm
by frigidmagi
cnn
The Occupy Wall Street protests have sparked another fight -- between Republicans and President Obama.

Speaking Friday at a "Values Voter Summit" in Washington, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor called the protesters a "mob" and suggested they had been encouraged by the Obama administration.

"This administration's failed policies have resulted in an assault on many of our nation's bedrock principles," he said. "If you read the newspapers today, I for one am increasingly concerned about the growing mobs occupying Wall Street and the other cities across the country.

"And, believe it or not, some in this town have condoned the pitting of Americans against Americans," he added.

His remarks come the day after President Obama expressed sympathy to the views of protesters.

Obama defended the decision to bail out banks and Wall Street during the meltdown in the financial sector in 2008, saying not doing so would have caused far greater damage to the economy. But he said he understands the backlash against that bailout now being voiced in the protests.

"I think people are frustrated, and the protesters are giving voice to a more broad-based frustration about how our financial system works," he said.

And the president used another question about the protests to criticize Republican efforts to roll back the Dodd-Frank financial industry regulations passed last year.

"You've got Republican presidential candidates whose main economic policy proposals is, we'll get rid of the financial reforms that are designed to prevent the abuses that got us into this mess in the first place," he said.

"That does not make sense to the American people. They are frustrated by it."

After Cantor's remarks Friday, White House press spokesman Jay Carney said the Republican leader's criticism of the Wall Street protests was "hypocrisy unbound," when compared to his support of Tea Party protests. He said both were examples of American democratic traditions.

"I don't understand why one man's mob is another man's democracy," Carney said.


Cantor's remarks follow an interview by Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain on Thursday, who told a Wall Street Journal video show that the protestors were "anti-capitalism" and that he believed they were being orchestrated simply to distract from failed economic policies of the Obama administration, although he admitted he had no evidence to back up that charge.

"Don't blame Wall Street. Don't blame the big banks. If you don't have a job, and you're not rich, blame yourself," he said.
And, believe it or not, some in this town have condoned the pitting of Americans against Americans," he added.
You would fucking know Cantor, you're one of them! This goes beyond pot and kettle, I don't think I have a metaphor for this. And Cain's quote at the end of this article? Holy Shit where do I even start?

Yes, it's your fault according to him if a company lays you off during a "restructuring." It's your fault that companies will not hire unemployed which makes it insanely hard to get a new job. It's your fault that banks invested unwisely and the crash wiped out your own investments. Yep.

I dare the Republicans to run this man. I dare them!

#2

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:13 pm
by The Minx
Obama is cannier than Cantor. But he's very much a politician of the Big Bankers, so hearing him express sympathy for the way protesters feel about the bailouts and the way the financial system works is a bit grating. :neutral:

Cain doesn't have much of a chance to win the GOP nomination by now, thank goodness. :smile:

#3

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:37 pm
by frigidmagi
I'm gonna point out a couple things here. I: The bailouts were done before Obama was elected President and frankly they were necessary, if the banks went down they would have taken other industries with them. II: Obama has conducted actions to ensure that we get paid back, despite some Congressmen pushing him to let the debt slide.

Obama hasn't gone far enough in many respects and frankly he's more moderate then I would have been (rubs What Would Teddy Do talisman). His biggest mistake among others is letting the people who got us here stay in their positions. They should have been hounded out of any positions of power and influence for this. But in many ways the Big Banks aren't happy with him, which is one of the reasons the Tea Party found it so easy.

Turning on a moderate reformer never ends well but we never seem to learn that.

#4

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:56 pm
by The Minx
The bailouts were begun before Obama, but he continued them, didn't he? I know that he made it so that we get paid back. It's just that... yea, he hasn't done enough.

But the things that the banks would have wanted no sane person could have agreed to anyway. And Obama still needs to do something for those who elected him.