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With the White House under fire for its new rule requiring employers including religious organizations to offer health insurance that fully covers birth control coverage, at 12:15 p.m. ET, President Obama will announce an attempt to accommodate these religious groups.

The move, based on state models, will almost certainly not satisfy bishops and other religious leaders since it will preserve the goal of women employees having their birth control fully covered by health insurance.

Sources say it will be respectful of religious beliefs but will not back off from that goal, which many religious leaders oppose since birth control is in violation of their religious beliefs.
One source familiar with the decision described the accommodation as “Hawaii-plus,” insisting that it’s better than the Hawaii plan — for both sides.

In Hawaii the employer is responsible for referring employees to places where they can obtain the contraception; Catholic leaders call that material cooperation with evil. But what the White House will likely announce later today is that the relationship between the religious employer and the insurance company will not need to have any component involving contraception. The insurance company will reach out on its own to the women employees. This is better for both sides, the source says, since the religious organizations do not have to deal with medical care to which they object, and women employees will not have to be dependent upon an organization strongly opposed to that care in order to obtain it.

Comrade Tortoise wrote:No. This is still a lose for conservative religious leaders. You have to remember, they (catholic church, some fundie protestant groups) dont want women to have access to birth control period (no pun intended)

General Havoc wrote:

Comrade Tortoise wrote:No. This is still a lose for conservative religious leaders. You have to remember, they (catholic church, some fundie protestant groups) dont want women to have access to birth control period (no pun intended)

Perhaps, but it eliminates their religious freedom argument to justify denying women that care. They simply no longer have anything to do with the discussion.

Comrade Tortoise wrote:Religious Freedom for them means the right to impose their religion on others. See opposition to gay marriage, disruption of buddhist prayers in the senate, ongoing attempts to force children to pray in school....

frigidmagi wrote:ABC

With the White House under fire for its new rule requiring employers including religious organizations to offer health insurance that fully covers birth control coverage, at 12:15 p.m. ET, President Obama will announce an attempt to accommodate these religious groups.

The move, based on state models, will almost certainly not satisfy bishops and other religious leaders since it will preserve the goal of women employees having their birth control fully covered by health insurance.

Sources say it will be respectful of religious beliefs but will not back off from that goal, which many religious leaders oppose since birth control is in violation of their religious beliefs.
One source familiar with the decision described the accommodation as “Hawaii-plus,” insisting that it’s better than the Hawaii plan — for both sides.

In Hawaii the employer is responsible for referring employees to places where they can obtain the contraception; Catholic leaders call that material cooperation with evil. But what the White House will likely announce later today is that the relationship between the religious employer and the insurance company will not need to have any component involving contraception. The insurance company will reach out on its own to the women employees. This is better for both sides, the source says, since the religious organizations do not have to deal with medical care to which they object, and women employees will not have to be dependent upon an organization strongly opposed to that care in order to obtain it.

Basically the White House will bluntly order the insurance companies to cover it free of charge and swallow the cost. I'm not sure how that works but that seems to be the plan more or less.

I've already heard screams that this is Obama caving and that mystifies me. If this plan goes through women will have access to contraceptives and not have to pay extra for them, they will be insured for them. That was the objective, the goal is achieved. How is achieving the goal caving in?