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#1 The Logic of buying Status Symbols.

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:50 pm
by frigidmagi
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We hates us some poor people. First, they insist on being poor when it is so easy to not be poor. They do things like buy expensive designer belts and $2500 luxury handbags.

To be fair, this isn’t about Eroll Louis. His is a belief held by many people, including lots of black people, poor people, formerly poor people, etc. It is, I suspect, an honest expression of incredulity. If you are poor, why do you spend money on useless status symbols like handbags and belts and clothes and shoes and televisions and cars?

One thing I’ve learned is that one person’s illogical belief is another person’s survival skill. And nothing is more logical than trying to survive.

My family is a classic black American migration family. We have rural Southern roots, moved north and almost all have returned. I grew up watching my great-grandmother, and later my grandmother and mother, use our minimal resources to help other people make ends meet. We were those good poors, the kind who live mostly within our means. We had a little luck when a male relative got extra military pay when they came home a paraplegic or used the VA to buy a Jim Walter house (pdf). If you were really blessed when a relative died with a paid up insurance policy you might be gifted a lump sum to buy the land that Jim Walters used as collateral to secure your home lease. That’s how generational wealth happens where I’m from: lose a leg, a part of your spine, die right and maybe you can lease-to-own a modular home.

We had a little of that kind of rural black wealth so we were often in a position to help folks less fortunate. But perhaps the greatest resource we had was a bit more education. We were big readers and we encouraged the girl children, especially, to go to some kind of college. Consequently, my grandmother and mother had a particular set of social resources that helped us navigate mostly white bureaucracies to our benefit. We could, as my grandfather would say, talk like white folks. We loaned that privilege out to folks a lot.

I remember my mother taking a next door neighbor down to the social service agency. The elderly woman had been denied benefits to care for the granddaughter she was raising. The woman had been denied in the genteel bureaucratic way — lots of waiting, forms, and deadlines she could not quite navigate. I watched my mother put on her best Diana Ross “Mahogany” outfit: a camel colored cape with matching slacks and knee high boots. I was miffed, as only an only child could be, about sharing my mother’s time with the neighbor girl. I must have said something about why we had to do this. Vivian fixed me with a stare as she was slipping on her pearl earrings and told me that people who can do, must do. It took half a day but something about my mother’s performance of respectable black person — her Queen’s English, her Mahogany outfit, her straight bob and pearl earrings — got done what the elderly lady next door had not been able to get done in over a year. I learned, watching my mother, that there was a price we had to pay to signal to gatekeepers that we were worthy of engaging. It meant dressing well and speaking well. It might not work. It likely wouldn‘t work but on the off chance that it would, you had to try. It was unfair but, as Vivian also always said, “life isn’t fair little girl.”

I internalized that lesson and I think it has worked out for me, if unevenly. A woman at Belk’s once refused to show me the Dooney and Burke purse I was interested in buying. Vivian once made a salesgirl cry after she ignored us in an empty store. I have walked away from many of hotly desired purchases, like the impractical off-white winter coat I desperately wanted, after some bigot at the counter insulted me and my mother. But, I have half a PhD and I support myself aping the white male privileged life of the mind. It’s a mixed bag. Of course, the trick is you can never know the counterfactual of your life. There is no evidence of access denied. Who knows what I was not granted for not enacting the right status behaviors or symbols at the right time for an agreeable authority? Respectability rewards are a crap-shoot but we do what we can within the limits of the constraints imposed by a complex set of structural and social interactions designed to limit access to status, wealth, and power.

I do not know how much my mother spent on her camel colored cape or knee-high boots but I know that whatever she paid it returned in hard-to-measure dividends. How do you put a price on the double-take of a clerk at the welfare office who decides you might not be like those other trifling women in the waiting room and provides an extra bit of information about completing a form that you would not have known to ask about? What is the retail value of a school principal who defers a bit more to your child because your mother’s presentation of self signals that she might unleash the bureaucratic savvy of middle class parents to advocate for her child? I don’t know the price of these critical engagements with organizations and gatekeepers relative to our poverty when I was growing up. But, I am living proof of its investment yield.

Why do poor people make stupid, illogical decisions to buy status symbols? For the same reason all but only the most wealthy buy status symbols, I suppose. We want to belong. And, not just for the psychic rewards, but belonging to one group at the right time can mean the difference between unemployment and employment, a good job as opposed to a bad job, housing or a shelter, and so on. Someone mentioned on twitter that poor people can be presentable with affordable options from Kmart. But the issue is not about being presentable. Presentable is the bare minimum of social civility. It means being clean, not smelling, wearing shirts and shoes for service and the like. Presentable as a sufficient condition for gainful, dignified work or successful social interactions is a privilege. It’s the aging white hippie who can cut the ponytail of his youthful rebellion and walk into senior management while aging black panthers can never completely outrun the effects of stigmatization against which they were courting a revolution. Presentable is relative and, like life, it ain’t fair.

In contrast, “acceptable” is about gaining access to a limited set of rewards granted upon group membership. I cannot know exactly how often my presentation of acceptable has helped me but I have enough feedback to know it is not inconsequential. One manager at the apartment complex where I worked while in college told me, repeatedly, that she knew I was “Okay” because my little Nissan was clean. That I had worn a Jones of New York suit to the interview really sealed the deal. She could call the suit by name because she asked me about the label in the interview. Another hiring manager at my first professional job looked me up and down in the waiting room, cataloging my outfit, and later told me that she had decided I was too classy to be on the call center floor. I was hired as a trainer instead. The difference meant no shift work, greater prestige, better pay and a baseline salary for all my future employment.

I have about a half dozen other stories like this. What is remarkable is not that this happened. There is empirical evidence that women and people of color are judged by appearances differently and more harshly than are white men. What is remarkable is that these gatekeepers told me the story. They wanted me to know how I had properly signaled that I was not a typical black or a typical woman, two identities that in combination are almost always conflated with being poor.

I sat in on an interview for a new administrative assistant once. My regional vice president was doing the hiring. A long line of mostly black and brown women applied because we were a cosmetology school. Trade schools at the margins of skilled labor in a gendered field are necessarily classed and raced. I found one candidate particularly charming. She was trying to get out of a salon because 10 hours on her feet cutting hair would average out to an hourly rate below minimum wage. A desk job with 40 set hours and medical benefits represented mobility for her. When she left my VP turned to me and said, “did you see that tank top she had on under her blouse?! OMG, you wear a silk shell, not a tank top!” Both of the women were black.

The VP had constructed her job as senior management. She drove a brand new BMW because she, “should treat herself” and liked to tell us that ours was an image business. A girl wearing a cotton tank top as a shell was incompatible with BMW-driving VPs in the image business. Gatekeeping is a complex job of managing boundaries that do not just define others but that also define ourselves. Status symbols — silk shells, designer shoes, luxury handbags — become keys to unlock these gates. If I need a job that will save my lower back and move my baby from medicaid to an HMO, how much should I spend signaling to people like my former VP that I will not compromise her status by opening the door to me? That candidate maybe could not afford a proper shell. I will never know. But I do know that had she gone hungry for two days to pay for it or missed wages for a trip to the store to buy it, she may have been rewarded a job that could have lifted her above minimum wage. Shells aren’t designer handbags, perhaps. But a cosmetology school in a strip mall isn’t a job at Bank of America, either.

At the heart of these incredulous statements about the poor decisions poor people make is a belief that we would never be like them. We would know better. We would know to save our money, eschew status symbols, cut coupons, practice puritanical sacrifice to amass a million dollars. There is a regular news story of a lunch lady who, unbeknownst to all who knew her, died rich and leaves it all to a cat or a charity or some such. Books about the modest lives of the rich like to tell us how they drive Buicks instead of BMWs. What we forget, if we ever know, is that what we know now about status and wealth creation and sacrifice are predicated on who we are, i.e. not poor. If you change the conditions of your not-poor status, you change everything you know as a result of being a not-poor. You have no idea what you would do if you were poor until you are poor. And not intermittently poor or formerly not-poor, but born poor, expected to be poor and treated by bureaucracies, gatekeepers and well-meaning respectability authorities as inherently poor. Then, and only then, will you understand the relative value of a ridiculous status symbol to someone who intuits that they cannot afford to not have it.
TL DR: By buying products that would seem out of reach of their earnings, poor people can leverage better treatment in social and economic situations that may lead to an improvement in their lives. So they'll find the money somehow.

#2 Re: The Logic of buying Status Symbols.

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:36 pm
by B4UTRUST
I read the article and your summary of it. However, I must confess I'm still unsure about how this all plays out. I say this because despite what some say or think(it just doesn't happen, that's just racist stereotyping, etc), I have seen this sort of situation in real life but not the indicated result of uplifted social standing. Mostly I say this with regard to the idea of TVs and cars. I've been to trashy trailer parks that look like they're falling apart and see Escalades parked out front. I've been to houses that I'm fairly certain doubled as crack dens or should have been condemned on grounds of neglect and public safety that had $5-10k worth of home theater equipment. Can't afford to fix the car in the driveway, can't afford to put food in the fridge from what I saw, but damn could they afford 60" HDTVs and video game systems.

I've seen that sort of situation in my job, but I don't get the 2nd part of the equation. Nowhere in there does someone having a $60k SUV parked outside their trailer make me think better of them in any way. If anything it usually makes me think worse of them.

These are just my examples from personal experience. Higher end clothes I can understand. It's a self image thing in public that as pointed out can adjust your potential for getting a job, navigating bureaucracy, etc. Some other similar status symbols I can get. But I still can't wrap my mind around how having a 60" plasma TV and a PS3 improves your social standing(perceived or actual) in any real way.

#3 Re: The Logic of buying Status Symbols.

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:41 pm
by frigidmagi
I'm pretty sure the article was being rather specific as to things like clothing, it did mention T.V's but it's not discussing the logic behind those purchases.

#4 Re: The Logic of buying Status Symbols.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:35 am
by Norseman
B4UTRUST wrote:These are just my examples from personal experience. Higher end clothes I can understand. It's a self image thing in public that as pointed out can adjust your potential for getting a job, navigating bureaucracy, etc. Some other similar status symbols I can get. But I still can't wrap my mind around how having a 60" plasma TV and a PS3 improves your social standing(perceived or actual) in any real way.
And that is just it. I don't think that nearly so many people would be upset if poor people bought expensive, but presentable middle- to upper-class business clothing or nice outfits in order to get a job. I also think that this article suffers from selection bias: She was from an upwards mobile family deliberately trying to present as wealthy, she herself tried to improve her social mobility and send the right cues, and so she constantly found herself surrounded by people doing the same thing.

I read this Cracked article 5 things nobody tells you about being poor and I notice the bit about how there's always an expensive disaster around the corner. There's always something to suck up your money, so basically you never get the feeling you can save anything. With that in mind why *not* spend a windfall on expensive luxuries? The money will be gone anyway, but at least now you got an awesome stereo.

Also it impresses your friends and your peer group, which is a very common human instinct.

#5 Re: The Logic of buying Status Symbols.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:27 am
by B4UTRUST
frigidmagi wrote:I'm pretty sure the article was being rather specific as to things like clothing, it did mention T.V's but it's not discussing the logic behind those purchases.
Well, that was kind of my point. It pointed out all these other things but made no effort to justify them in any manner. The clothes were justified. But when it asks the question 'If you are poor, why do you spend money on useless status symbols like handbags and belts and clothes and shoes and televisions and cars?' at the beginning of the article I kind of expected to at least get a half-assed answer to some of the stuff besides items of clothing.

#6 Re: The Logic of buying Status Symbols.

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:09 am
by Josh
Norseman wrote:
B4UTRUST wrote:Also it impresses your friends and your peer group, which is a very common human instinct.
Except it doesn't. Like B4 said, it's very situational.

I had a buddy I worked with, dude was always down on his luck. Ate a shitty little whitebread sandwich for lunch every day, so even though I wasn't particularly flush at the time I always brought a bit of extra food so I could give him some. A week after payday (we got paid twice a month) he was always down to bumming smokes, and I'd throw him some of those too.

(And yeah, we were both smoking, not very bright.)

Got his phone yanked because his daughter threw out five hundred bucks worth of texts.

So then he gets a big disability bump from the VA and he's got a payday coming with back pay, plus a tax return, and for a couple of weeks he's going on about how he's going to get eight grand coming in and I'm thinking cool, my buddy's going to get a chance to square stuff like the back phone bill and bank some cash and get ahead.

So a couple of days after it arrives he's finally got a new phone, cool. Then he's telling me about the big new TV he got, and the new computer, and this and that and I'm all "You gotta be shitting me."

And a week after payday he's bumming smokes again.

So then the next year, his wife gets a settlement in a class action lawsuit, and all over again he's getting eight grand or so lump sum. But I know what's coming here, and yep, he gets his phones reactivated (dude never had a phone longer than three months the whole time I knew him) and he's broke again within a week.

Status symbols used strategically to impress people for gains is a smart move. But everybody thought my old buddy was a dumbass because every time he had a windfall he'd squander it on stupid shit that didn't actually put him in a position to actually better his life.

One thing I noticed over and over when I was a kid was how people who were always broke also always had cable TV. Back then there were two groups that had cable in general- upper middle class and higher, and the poor. It drove me fucking nuts how people would complain about making ends meet, but by god the cable bill got paid every month because the cable company's quick to jerk your service. Car after car gets repoed out of your yard, but hey, priorities.

There's a lot of shit that stacks against the poor in this country- go to a shitty neighborhood supermarket, and you'll find shitty, lower-quality food but at higher prices per volume than you will in a regular store. The shitty quality of low-end merchandise you get at a dollar store means you'll be replacing goods more often and paying more than if you'd managed to get good stuff, but when you're on the low-end you buy what you can afford at the moment. Shit credit and lack of bank accounts means passing a percentage of your paycheck over to the check cashing stands. Health care is a bitch, of course. So yeah, there are structural issues with our systems that are in place to milk resources away from people.

But shitty purchasing decisions don't help, and I've seen a shit-ton of that. Just like Scottie, when I was doing the dumpster delivery/collection gig I pulled up on plenty of houses that might as well have been crack dens, but they all had satellite dishes or cable connections, and usually cars that were obviously well beyond their means parked out front.