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SQUEE!!!!!

I don't knwo about any of the other girls here, not that theres many of us around anymore, but I have fallen IN LOVE with the Twilight series. And now they've pushed up the Date for the move and its on my Birthday!!!! Yaaayyye!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tQk8pKnnVY

*watches the trailer*

O-KAY! That's just impressive. Vampires and Werewolves?

oooh yeah!

The books are fantastic! A little on the young side I will admit but nothing worse than harry potter, more adult even. I got the first book a week ago and am already a quarter way through the third! You should try and check them out. (The main character is a little whiney I'll admit but it doesn't take away form the story to bad though.)

I've re-read the series at least twice. And really, it's great. I'm addicted. Though I'm a little worried that the movie won't live up to the book. Still, I can't wait!

Heh, stumbled on a funny review of the series just now

http://otahyoni.livejournal.com/130432.html

It looks like crap, complete with annoying pretty boy teen actors.

Since the novels are "young adult", and aimed at teenaged girls, what do you expect?

LadyTevar wrote:Since the novels are "young adult", and aimed at teenaged girls, what do you expect?

Adult women not to gush over them, for starters. I know teenagers have horrible taste, myself included, but fiction aimed at them doesn't have to shit.

Forgive me for throwing a match into a pool of gasoline here, but in my opinion, Twilight is a sin against man and god. It's horrific, trashy, author-wish-fulfillment, one of the worst books that has ever been penned. I appreciate that I am about as far from the target audience of said books as one can get, but even so, the mere fact that they're making this travesty of literature into a movie is enough to shake one's faith in humanity.

the same could be said of Eragon there Havoc...

or any of the current rash of novels/movies for the most part that latch onto teenagers.

The same has been said of Eragon, and by me!

There are young adult or teenage fantasy books that are not claptrap out there. Eragon and Twilight are so not among them.

So just out of curiosity, Havoc....what teenage fantasy books DO YOU suggest?

Just off the top of my head, the Young Wizards series by Diane Duane or the Westmark trilogy by Lloyd Alexander, while hardly my favorite things ever, are miles beyond either Eragon or Twilight. I don't tend to follow YA-fiction myself, my tastes running more towards other types of fantasy, but those two come to mind instantly as being well beyond the ken of travesties like Twilight.

General Havoc wrote:Just off the top of my head, the Young Wizards series by Diane Duane or the Westmark trilogy by Lloyd Alexander, while hardly my favorite things ever, are miles beyond either Eragon or Twilight. I don't tend to follow YA-fiction myself, my tastes running more towards other types of fantasy, but those two come to mind instantly as being well beyond the ken of travesties like Twilight.

I'll add in the Pern novels, especially the first two trilogies, as well as Susan Cooper's "Dark Is Rising" novels.

The Young Wizards stories rocked.

Lady T, those Pern novels are being seen with rose coloured lenses. You don't want to go back and reread them. Trust me.

Lloyd Alexander on the other hand rocks hard. I read them in third grade and they still hold up.

I'm out of my league.... Twilight is the first YA fantasy I've read unless you count Harry Potter. I'm more a Romance novel girl myself, which probably explains why I loved the series so damn much.

Mared wrote:I'm out of my league.... Twilight is the first YA fantasy I've read unless you count Harry Potter. I'm more a Romance novel girl myself, which probably explains why I loved the series so damn much.

Be specific Mared...

you like Housewife Porn, not Romance.

The gushing, sappy readers of that series have been referred to as Twitards. Really, that just explains a lot about it. You've got a story about a blatent mary-sue, loving the most amazingly beautiful divine seraphic alabaster stone statue in the world. EVAR! He's so fucking amazingly godlike in his divine serene sparkling(can't forget fucking sparkling) glory that his kiss can stop the Mary-Sue's heart. And did. Oh, and he's a 100+ year old virgin("There are other types of hungers, that are foreign to me."). Who finally marries said mary-sue. Knocks her up with a little fucktrophy, who is killing her by existing(breaking ribs when it kicks, ouch? Oh, and it's going to eat it's way out of her.) but refuses to even consider abortion(MESSAGE!) only to have her ex-boyfriend of a furry pedophile 'fall in love' with the daughter. Who telepathically falls in love with him. The author couldn't write a sense of passing time in if she had a dozen clocks and a dummies guide. A five minute conversation can cover getting seated, ordering, eating dinner and paying for it.

There's no real plot. There's no real substance. It's like the worst qualities of Anita Blake boiled down into a concentrated formula of suck and then made PG-13. Even the actors they got for the movie don't want to be in it. The guy playing Edward fucking hates the character.

And because the author is butthurt she refuses to publish the next installment of the 'series.' Which is funny because it's not even a real installment. It's like 5% new material, 95% recycled dialogue since it's now told from Ed's view instead of Bella. Which is great since it saves time and she gets to milk more money from rabid fangirls. Of that 5% new material we get to see first-person perspective of Edward being an obsessive stalking shit, watching Bella from outside her room for months.

So let's see here... You have a date-rapist pedophile werewolf. A bi-polar stalking obsessive abusive vampire. And a mindless twit who loves them both. Yeah...

LOL (literally!) Goodness this is good. You know, all of this is true. But I still can't help but like the books. It's the romantic in me, I swear. Maybe I need to read something with more substance....Naw.

p.s. DS? I read those books for the romance and you know it!

Holy shit, B4 - I'd say it's a complement to the writer's skill that people don't recoil in horror 1/4 of the way through, and burn the book while chanting "Die, Demon, DIE!" among other assorted phrases.

Rhoenix, it's angsty teenage romance with vampires. Pretty, sparkly (can't forget that edward sparkles!) ungodly beautiful vampires, and wish fulfillment average plain jane teenage girl suddenly becoming an object of teenage angsty love/lust. It's a tween/teen girl's dream scenerio. Beautiful guy wanting the average girl, becoming popular and the whole happily ever after, forever with the man of your dreams. They swallow this shit up like candy, begging for more like a junkie.

I wouldn't call it skill. Rather just writing to the niche.

B4UTRUST wrote:Rhoenix, it's angsty teenage romance with vampires. Pretty, sparkly (can't forget that edward sparkles!) ungodly beautiful vampires, and wish fulfillment average plain jane teenage girl suddenly becoming an object of teenage angsty love/lust. It's a tween/teen girl's dream scenerio. Beautiful guy wanting the average girl, becoming popular and the whole happily ever after, forever with the man of your dreams. They swallow this shit up like candy, begging for more like a junkie.

I wouldn't call it skill. Rather just writing to the niche.

Ok, so how does the "lol, im not a vampir but a werwulf" coupled (pun intended) with him siring a daughter with said starry-eyed girl, and then...falling in love with the daughter? In that way?

My face is doing this: o.O

*Wow, It must have been terrible to have been forced to read all four books B4. Who held the gun to your head, cause no offense, there's no way you could know what you know enough to say that the writing was terrible if you didn't read all of them. I admire your dedication to the rest of us that you felt like you had to martyr yourself to tell us how terrible the books were.

*mock sarcasm (read: I'm only joking, don't get pissy please)

Seriously though, did you read it? Cause if you did and you hated it so much, why did you continue to read it? I'm not obsessive about the series but for what it is (an young adult romance fantasy geared to teen girls) I didn't think that it was terrible.

Rukia wrote:Seriously though, did you read it? Cause if you did and you hated it so much, why did you continue to read it? I'm not obsessive about the series but for what it is (an young adult romance fantasy geared to teen girls) I didn't think that it was terrible.

That's like saying

"For poison, cyanide isn't so terrible."